• HPT Up and Running

    From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to All on Friday, June 28, 2019 16:53:16
    Hi All,

    Just checking to make sure things are working properly with HPT.

    I do have a question. I have separate files for my config. (config, areas, links, filearea, etc...)

    When a new message echo is created, is there a way to have it put the entry
    in the 'areas' config, instead of the main 'config'?

    It's not a major issue, just a curious question... :)

    Thanks,


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Dan Richter on Friday, June 28, 2019 17:24:56
    Hello Dan,

    Just checking to make sure things are working properly with HPT.

    Yep, it looks good here.

    I do have a question. I have separate files for my config. (config, areas, links, filearea, etc...)

    When a new message echo is created, is there a way to have it put the entry in the 'areas' config, instead of the main 'config'?

    Yes, I don't have that in my config these days but have done it in the past. You'll need a couple keywords for that in the link definitions for that I believe.

    Read up on AutoAreaCreate and AutoAreaCreateDefaults.

    It's not a major issue, just a curious question... :)

    I've been meaning to look closer at that myself but haven't done so yet.

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  • From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to Alan Ianson on Friday, June 28, 2019 18:56:58
    On 28 Jun 2019, Alan Ianson said the following...

    When a new message echo is created, is there a way to have it put the en in the 'areas' config, instead of the main 'config'?

    Yes, I don't have that in my config these days but have done it in the past. You'll need a couple keywords for that in the link definitions for that I believe.

    I'll have to keep reading about the keywords. Like I said, not a big deal,
    just would like to keep the config files neat and orderly... ;)

    I've been meaning to look closer at that myself but haven't done so yet.

    It's a bit of a pain to set everything up initially, but once it's running, it's quick and had a lot of functionality. :)


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Dan Richter on Friday, June 28, 2019 19:42:10
    Hello Dan,

    I'll have to keep reading about the keywords. Like I said, not a big
    deal, just would like to keep the config files neat and orderly... ;)

    AutoAreaCreateFile might(TM) be what you're looking for but I don't see any info in the docs I have for it.

    It's a bit of a pain to set everything up initially, but once it's running, it's quick and had a lot of functionality. :)

    Stable and feature complete.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Michael Dukelsky@2:5020/1042 to Dan Richter on Saturday, June 29, 2019 22:31:12
    Hello Dan,

    Friday June 28 2019, Dan Richter wrote to All:

    Just checking to make sure things are working properly with HPT.

    I do have a question. I have separate files for my config. (config,
    areas, links, filearea, etc...)

    When a new message echo is created, is there a way to have it put the entry in the 'areas' config, instead of the main 'config'?

    Yes, in husky 1.9 it is AreafixAutoCreateFile for echos and FilefixAutoCreateFile for file echos.

    Michael

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Michael Dukelsky on Saturday, June 29, 2019 17:16:54

    On 2019 Jun 29 22:31:12, you wrote to Dan Richter:

    I do have a question. I have separate files for my config. (config,
    areas, links, filearea, etc...)

    When a new message echo is created, is there a way to have it put the
    entry in the 'areas' config, instead of the main 'config'?

    Yes, in husky 1.9 it is AreafixAutoCreateFile for echos and FilefixAutoCreateFile for file echos.

    i think what he's asking is more like, will autoadded areas be placed into one of

    fidonet.areas
    fsxnet.areas
    micronet.areas

    instead of the main config file... does hpt and friends differentiate areas coming from certain addresses to be able to do this?

    )\/(ark

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  • From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to mark lewis on Saturday, June 29, 2019 15:42:00
    On 29 Jun 2019, mark lewis said the following...

    i think what he's asking is more like, will autoadded areas be placed
    into one o f

    fidonet.areas
    fsxnet.areas
    micronet.areas

    instead of the main config file... does hpt and friends differentiate areas comi ng from certain addresses to be able to do this?

    That's exactly it. I'm not sure if it's possible or not. If it's not, it's alright, as I don't have that many areas being autoadded. It actually gives
    me a chance to view/correct the entry before moving it to the other config file.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to mark lewis on Saturday, June 29, 2019 14:50:50
    Yes, in husky 1.9 it is AreafixAutoCreateFile for echos and
    FilefixAutoCreateFile for file echos.

    i think what he's asking is more like, will autoadded areas be placed into one
    of

    fidonet.areas
    fsxnet.areas
    micronet.areas

    instead of the main config file... does hpt and friends differentiate areas coming from certain addresses to be able to do this?

    Yes, with the above keywords in a node definition new areas will be added to the given file. This works with message and file areas. Be sure to include the file in your config.. :)

    An advanced feature that I don't use here (currently).

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  • From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, June 29, 2019 16:23:22
    On 29 Jun 2019, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Yes, in husky 1.9 it is AreafixAutoCreateFile for echos and
    FilefixAutoCreateFile for file echos.

    i think what he's asking is more like, will autoadded areas be placed int
    of

    Yes, with the above keywords in a node definition new areas will be
    added to the given file. This works with message and file areas. Be sure to include the file in your config.. :)

    Ahhh, found it... It's easy to get lost in the documentation for the config files... :)

    Thank you.


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  • From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to Michael Dukelsky on Saturday, June 29, 2019 16:49:32
    On 29 Jun 2019, Michael Dukelsky said the following...

    When a new message echo is created, is there a way to have it put the entry in the 'areas' config, instead of the main 'config'?

    Yes, in husky 1.9 it is AreafixAutoCreateFile for echos and FilefixAutoCreateFil e for file echos.

    Got it working. I just added:

    areafixAutoCreateFile ~/husky/areas
    filefixAutoCreateFile ~/husky/fileareas

    under my linkDefaults section for my uplinks.

    Thank you.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Dan Richter on Saturday, June 29, 2019 16:09:28
    Yes, with the above keywords in a node definition new areas will be
    added to the given file. This works with message and file areas. Be sure
    to include the file in your config.. :)

    Ahhh, found it... It's easy to get lost in the documentation for the config files... :)

    Sounds like you've taken your husky config further along than I have. I may need to ping you for keywords and placement at some point.. :)

    Looks like you've plugged husky into Mystic as well.. I like it.. :)

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  • From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, June 29, 2019 17:38:28
    On 29 Jun 2019, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Sounds like you've taken your husky config further along than I have. I may need to ping you for keywords and placement at some point.. :)

    Just remember, tparser is your friend... ;) It tells you if something is in
    the wrong place...

    Looks like you've plugged husky into Mystic as well.. I like it.. :)

    Me too... It seems to be running smoothly. I'm still finding a few typos in
    the message/file area configs, but nothing serious. :)


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Dan Richter on Saturday, June 29, 2019 22:13:16

    On 2019 Jun 29 15:42:00, you wrote to me:

    i think what he's asking is more like, will autoadded areas be placed
    into one o f

    fidonet.areas
    fsxnet.areas
    micronet.areas

    instead of the main config file... does hpt and friends differentiate
    areas comi ng from certain addresses to be able to do this?

    That's exactly it. I'm not sure if it's possible or not. If it's not, it's alright, as I don't have that many areas being autoadded. It actually
    gives
    me a chance to view/correct the entry before moving it to the other config file.

    yeah, i still do that here to move them out of my "auto add" Z group and into the proper group for them... then i can adjust the entry as needed, add in the proper short title from the echolist and move the JAM files to the proper directory... i don't get many added any more, either... when i first started, i
    just turned it all on at my main system and autoadded everything... then spent some hours for a few days editing the entries and cleaning things up... still have a bunch to fix the short title on but i can see the echotag in golded and that's more important than what some title says ;)

    )\/(ark

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  • From Michael Dukelsky@2:5020/1042 to mark lewis on Sunday, June 30, 2019 20:09:30
    Hello mark,

    Saturday June 29 2019, mark lewis wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

    I do have a question. I have separate files for my config.
    (config, areas, links, filearea, etc...)

    When a new message echo is created, is there a way to have it
    put the entry in the 'areas' config, instead of the main
    'config'?

    Yes, in husky 1.9 it is AreafixAutoCreateFile for echos and
    FilefixAutoCreateFile for file echos.

    i think what he's asking is more like, will autoadded areas be placed
    into one of

    fidonet.areas
    fsxnet.areas
    micronet.areas

    instead of the main config file... does hpt and friends differentiate areas coming from certain addresses to be able to do this?

    Alan has already answered your question so I have nothing to do. :)

    Michael

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  • From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to mark lewis on Sunday, June 30, 2019 14:18:28
    On 29 Jun 2019, mark lewis said the following...

    editing the entries and cleaning things up... still have a bunch to fix the short title on but i can see the echotag in golded and that's more i mportant than what some title says ;)

    I've been working on that as well. I just about have all of the file echos done. There were a few that auto-added yesterday.

    The message echos still need to have the descriptions added to them. That's a bit of a daunting task with over 550 echos set up right now... I think I'll work on them in sections, so it's not so bad... :)


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  • From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to Michael Dukelsky on Sunday, June 30, 2019 14:33:00
    On 30 Jun 2019, Michael Dukelsky said the following...

    When a new message echo is created, is there a way to have it
    put the entry in the 'areas' config, instead of the main
    'config'?

    Yes, in husky 1.9 it is AreafixAutoCreateFile for echos and
    FilefixAutoCreateFile for file echos.

    Alan has already answered your question so I have nothing to do. :)

    I apologize, as I misunderstood your previous answer to my question. When I read 'FilefixAutoCreateFile', I was thinking 'FilefixAutoCreate'. I had to go back and reread your answer without being in a hurry...

    If I could make a suggestion. On the GitHub site, all of the packages are set up in their own repository under the huskyproject, which is fine. If there could be some descriptions, and possibly a list of command line parameters added to each of the separate programs, it would help out greatly. :)

    Thank you


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Michael Dukelsky on Sunday, June 30, 2019 17:14:14

    On 2019 Jun 30 20:09:30, you wrote to me:

    [...]
    instead of the main config file... does hpt and friends differentiate
    areas coming from certain addresses to be able to do this?

    Alan has already answered your question so I have nothing to do. :)

    excellent... i was just checking since it does seem to work that way in my current setup but it is not as extensive as it once was... thank you for confirming :)

    )\/(ark

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Dan Richter on Sunday, June 30, 2019 17:15:58

    On 2019 Jun 30 14:18:28, you wrote to me:

    editing the entries and cleaning things up... still have a bunch to
    fix the short title on but i can see the echotag in golded and that's
    more i mportant than what some title says ;)

    I've been working on that as well. I just about have all of the file
    echos done. There were a few that auto-added yesterday.

    yeah... little steps...

    The message echos still need to have the descriptions added to them. That's a bit of a daunting task with over 550 echos set up right
    now... I think I'll work on them in sections, so it's not so bad... :)

    whoa! i have like 5 or 6 groups in effect for one network, alone... plus i use Z for all newly autoadded echos... i've not done anything with FDNs yet... anyway, at 5 groups per network, i'd run out of groups at 5 networks joined... i really like sbbs' 8 character groups... they're nicer than the single characters once used a lot better than the 4 characters ones that came later...
    i was just about hitting my limits in fastecho, too, when i was running it... especially when having to block access to the individual beta testing areas and
    private echo areas i carry... i won't even mention limiting access to zone restricted sysop only areas and the like ;)

    )\/(ark

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  • From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to mark lewis on Sunday, June 30, 2019 16:05:40
    On 30 Jun 2019, mark lewis said the following...

    whoa! i have like 5 or 6 groups in effect for one network, alone... plus
    i use Z for all newly autoadded echos... i've not done anything with

    I'm just using one group per network, for the most part. I do have another group set up for the usenet newsgroups that I carry, and I get those from multiple hubs, so it gets a bit interesting. I also work with 4 different
    hubs just for fidonet as well...

    FDNs yet... anyway , at 5 groups per network, i'd run out of groups at 5 networks joined... i reall y like sbbs' 8 character groups... they're

    Are you referring to groups in hpt? If so, you can have many more groups.
    I've stopped using single letters for groups, and started using 'fido',
    'fsx', etc. It makes it a lot easier to keep them straight in my head...

    nicer than the single characters once used a lot better than the 4 characters ones that came later... i was just abou t hitting my limits
    in fastecho, too, when i was running it... especially when h aving to

    It's been awhile since I used Synchronet. I do have it running on one of my systems, but it's acting as a FTN<>QWK gateway for a couple networks. I
    really don't even look at it that often...

    block access to the individual beta testing areas and private echo area
    s i carry... i won't even mention limiting access to zone restricted
    sysop only areas and the like ;)

    I haven't even worried about that, as I don't have any feeds outside the
    zone. :)


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Dan Richter on Sunday, June 30, 2019 23:43:18
    On 2019 Jun 30 16:05:40, you wrote to me:

    whoa! i have like 5 or 6 groups in effect for one network, alone...
    plus i use Z for all newly autoadded echos... i've not done anything
    with

    I'm just using one group per network, for the most part. I do have
    another group set up for the usenet newsgroups that I carry, and I get those from multiple hubs, so it gets a bit interesting. I also work
    with 4 different hubs just for fidonet as well...

    yeah... some of what i use groups for security levels were used for in the past... there were times, however, that i couldn't do what i want to with security levels, though... like higher levels have access to lower levels but i
    need one level for X and another one for Y with no crossing the line...

    FDNs yet... anyway , at 5 groups per network, i'd run out of groups
    at 5 networks joined... i reall y like sbbs' 8 character groups...
    they're

    Are you referring to groups in hpt?

    well, both hpt and golded in this point setup situation and thinking about if it were a full node with multiple feeds and downlinks...

    If so, you can have many more groups. I've stopped using single
    letters for groups, and started using 'fido', 'fsx', etc. It makes it
    a lot easier to keep them straight in my head...

    i didn't know that htp could do multiple character groups but then i've not dug
    in further since i got everything set up and workinig like it is...

    nicer than the single characters once used a lot better than the 4
    characters ones that came later... i was just abou t hitting my
    limits in fastecho, too, when i was running it... especially when h
    aving to

    It's been awhile since I used Synchronet. I do have it running on one
    of my systems, but it's acting as a FTN<>QWK gateway for a couple networks. I really don't even look at it that often...

    :) it is my main system now since hurricane florence came through... it handles all my hubbing stuff as a backbone star...

    block access to the individual beta testing areas and private echo
    area s i carry... i won't even mention limiting access to zone
    restricted sysop only areas and the like ;)

    I haven't even worried about that, as I don't have any feeds outside
    the zone. :)

    :)

    )\/(ark

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