• Husky project is now on github

    From Michael Dukelsky@2:5020/1042 to All on Monday, January 08, 2018 20:43:14
    Hello All,

    As Robert has already written, our CVS repository on sourceforge.net has now read only status. So I converted it from CVS to Git and moved the project to https://github.com/huskyproject

    I converted all subprojects except hflist, mail2pkt and pkt2mail. These three subprojects have been in fact removed and are empty.

    Now to some technical details. I put every subproject in a separate repository.
    One could instead use submodules or subtrees. There is much lamentation to submodules in internet, I'll cite only this: 'Submodules are a weird balance: easy to set up, fraught with peril the entire rest of the projects life'. Subtrees are different but they are easy to use if there is only one master branch in the subtree. Otherwise the life complicates. That is why I chose a separate repo for each subproject. But it can be changed if your experience varies.

    Conversion was done using cvs2git with (almost) default configuration. If one can suggest any improvements, it would be greatly appreciated.

    All developers are kindly asked to send me their github names, so that I could send an invitation to the project.

    Michael

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Michael Dukelsky on Tuesday, January 09, 2018 18:08:36
    Hello Michael!

    08 Jan 18 20:43, Michael Dukelsky wrote to All:

    I converted all subprojects except hflist, mail2pkt and pkt2mail.
    These three subprojects have been in fact removed and are empty.

    Thanks a lot!

    Now to some technical details. I put every subproject in a separate repository. One could instead use submodules or subtrees. There is
    much lamentation to submodules in internet, I'll cite only this: 'Submodules are a weird balance: easy to set up, fraught with peril
    the entire rest of the projects life'. Subtrees are different but
    they are easy to use if there is only one master branch in the
    subtree. Otherwise the life complicates. That is why I chose a
    separate repo for each subproject. But it can be changed if your experience varies.

    Uh, sounds a bit like overkill, but ok...
    I used to have a few script that pulled me all husky cvs modules into git repos, but it looks like I cannot find that stuff anymore, don't know where I put it. Didn't do much more than "git cvsimport", anyway. ;-)

    All developers are kindly asked to send me their github names, so
    that I could send an invitation to the project.

    My handle is gerritkuehn. Thanks again!


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From Michael Dukelsky@2:5020/1042 to Gerrit Kuehn on Tuesday, January 09, 2018 20:55:52
    Hello Gerrit,

    Tuesday January 09 2018, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

    Now to some technical details. I put every subproject in a
    separate repository. One could instead use submodules or
    subtrees. There is much lamentation to submodules in internet,
    I'll cite only this: 'Submodules are a weird balance: easy to set
    up, fraught with peril the entire rest of the projects life'.
    Subtrees are different but they are easy to use if there is only
    one master branch in the subtree. Otherwise the life complicates.
    That is why I chose a separate repo for each subproject. But it
    can be changed if your experience varies.
    Uh, sounds a bit like overkill, but ok...

    Could you please explain what is overkill, a separate repo for each subproject,
    number of subprojects or anything else?

    My handle is gerritkuehn. Thanks again!

    I've sent you an invitation.

    Michael

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Michael Dukelsky on Tuesday, January 09, 2018 20:08:00
    Hello Michael!

    09 Jan 18 20:55, Michael Dukelsky wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

    That is why I chose a separate repo for each subproject. But it
    can be changed if your experience varies.

    Uh, sounds a bit like overkill, but ok...

    Could you please explain what is overkill, a separate repo for each subproject, number of subprojects or anything else?

    The number of projects in total as they typically depend on each other (so it is not very useful to have only one of these). But never mind, electrons are cheap these days. :)

    I've sent you an invitation.

    Received and joined, thanks!


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Gerrit Kuehn on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 18:08:48
    Hello Gerrit!

    09 Jan 2018 20:08, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

    The number of projects in total as they typically depend on each other (so it is not very useful to have only one of these). But never mind, electrons are cheap these days. :)

    all i wanted was a stable qico

    I've sent you an invitation.
    Received and joined, thanks!

    i like to get one aswell

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    its 2018 ? :)


    Regards Benny

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Michael Dukelsky on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 21:06:34
    * Originally by: Gerrit Kuehn (2:240/12), 09 Jan 18 20:08.

    Hello Michael!

    09 Jan 18 20:08, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Michael Dukelsky:


    I've sent you an invitation.

    Received and joined, thanks!

    I've been playing around with the repos a bit. Cloning worked like a charm. However, I just noticed that I appear to not have write permissions anywhere. Is this intentionally?

    <gerrit@comet:~/git/husky/fastlst>
    zsh/2 941 (git)-[master]-% git push
    ERROR: Permission to huskyproject/fastlst.git denied to gerritkuehn.


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Benny Pedersen on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 21:09:20
    Hello Benny!

    10 Jan 18 18:08, Benny Pedersen wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:


    I've sent you an invitation.
    Received and joined, thanks!

    i like to get one aswell

    You need to ask Michael. ;)


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From Michael Dukelsky@2:5020/1042 to Gerrit Kuehn on Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:06:48
    Hello Gerrit,

    Wednesday January 10 2018, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

    I've been playing around with the repos a bit. Cloning worked like a charm. However, I just noticed that I appear to not have write
    permissions anywhere. Is this intentionally?

    No, of course not. Sorry. I've changed the permission for all developers, so now you should be able to write.

    Michael

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Gerrit Kuehn on Thursday, January 11, 2018 09:33:15
    Hi Gerrit,

    On 2018-01-09 20:08:00, you wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

    I've sent you an invitation.

    Received and joined, thanks!

    I'm interested to know what subprojects of husky you are working on? Because you are not mentioned on http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Michael Dukelsky@2:5020/1042 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thursday, January 11, 2018 13:18:20
    Hello Wilfred,

    Thursday January 11 2018, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

    I'm interested to know what subprojects of husky you are working on? Because you are not mentioned on
    http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...

    The list is 10 years old. Here is the current list, it is accessible for admins
    only at sf.net. Most of the guys have left Fidonet. I put the node numbers of those whom I know they are in the nodelist.

     Matthias Tichy (mtt)
     Pavel Gulchouck (pgul) 2:463/68
    Tobias Ernst (os2tobi)
     Dmitry Sergienko (d_sergienko)
     Max Chernogor (mche)
     Stas Degteff (stas_degteff) 2:5080/102
     Sascha Silbe (sascha_silbe)
     Michael Dukelsky (dukelsky) 2:5020/1042
     Max Levenkov (max_levenkov)
     val khokhlov (val_khokhlov)
     Volker Quetschke (quetschke)
     Peter A Svistunov (petrucco)
    Alexander Shiyan (shc)
     Stanislav Maslovski (s_i_m)
     Robert James Clay (jame) 1:120/546
     Ianos Gnatiuc (ssianky)
     Tema Zelikin (tema31)
     Nestyurkin Nikolay (nikn)
     stalker37 (stalker37) 2:5059/37
     Ivan Fedorov (nssoft)
     Michael Haase (it-dienste)
     Mike Gorchak (lmike)
     Gerrit Kuehn (gerritkuehn) 2:240/12
     Shilov Vladimir (shilov)
     Oliver Grimm (atti47)
     J. Stadelhoff (joergstadelhoff)
     Igor Zakharoff (i_zkh)
     Jesper Srensen (yeppe)
     Andrew Sagulin (andrews42)
     Gremlin from Kremlin (grsf) 2:5020/545
     Max Vasilyev (vasilyevmax) 2:5057/77
     Andrew Ladutsko (andrew_ladutsko)
     Andy U. Luk'yanov (andr_lukyanov)

    Michael

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michael Dukelsky on Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:39:46
    Hi Michael,

    On 2018-01-11 13:18:20, you wrote to me:

    http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...

    The list is 10 years old.

    The website could need an update... ;)


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267 to Michael Dukelsky on Friday, January 12, 2018 01:50:30
    08 Jan 18 20:43, you wrote to all:

    As Robert has already written, our CVS repository on sourceforge.net has now read only status. So I converted it from CVS to Git and moved the project to https://github.com/huskyproject

    Thanks.

    All developers are kindly asked to send me their github names, so that I could send an invitation to the project.

    I don't anticipate many contributions these days, but FWIW my Github name is zoomosis.

    I think the last time I did any serious work on Msged was the 4.1 release, on 1997-02-02. Almost 21 years ago!

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Michael Dukelsky on Thursday, January 11, 2018 17:14:54
    Hello Michael!

    11 Jan 18 11:06, Michael Dukelsky wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:


    No, of course not. Sorry. I've changed the permission for all
    developers, so now you should be able to write.

    Thanks, I'll try again.


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thursday, January 11, 2018 17:15:50
    Hello Wilfred!

    11 Jan 18 09:33, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:


    Received and joined, thanks!

    I'm interested to know what subprojects of husky you are working on?

    Currently on none, I guess. But maybe I could pick that up again in the future.

    Because you are not mentioned on
    http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...

    I guess hardly anyone of the recent developers is mentioned there, the page is really outdated. Might be one thing to work on... ;-)
    Last thing I have been doing was work on porting fastlst, but that was more than a decade ago.


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Michael Dukelsky on Thursday, January 11, 2018 19:21:58
    * Originally by: Gerrit Kuehn (2:240/12), 11 Jan 18 17:14.

    Hello Michael!

    11 Jan 18 17:14, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Michael Dukelsky:


    Thanks, I'll try again.

    Works, thanks!


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From Michael Dukelsky@2:5020/1042 to andrew clarke on Thursday, January 11, 2018 21:39:32
    Hello andrew,

    Friday January 12 2018, andrew clarke wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

    I don't anticipate many contributions these days, but FWIW my Github
    name is zoomosis.

    I think the last time I did any serious work on Msged was the 4.1
    release, on 1997-02-02. Almost 21 years ago!

    Cool! Feel free to make more work useful for the community. If you improve something in the code, just open a pull request.

    Michael

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  • From Rj Clay@1:120/546 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Monday, January 15, 2018 10:06:24
    Hi Michael,
    On 2018-01-11 13:18:20, you wrote to me:
    http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...

    The list is 10 years old.

    The website could need an update... ;)

    Both the old one at Sourceforge and the new one, which would be at https://huskyproject.github.io.

    The 'homepage' repo at https://github.com/huskyproject can either be renamed or forked, depending on how we want to do it.

    I think the 'homepage' repo should be pushed to the SourceForge project and then the one at the GitHub project renamed to "huskyproject.github.io". Then we all can work on the web site there as we can. (I'd be glad to work on initial updates to adapt it to being on GitHub...)




    Jame



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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Rj Clay on Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:20:33
    Hi Rj,

    On 2018-01-15 10:06:24, you wrote to me:

    http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...

    The list is 10 years old.

    The website could need an update... ;)

    Both the old one at Sourceforge and the new one, which would be at https://huskyproject.github.io.

    This url gives a 404 error...


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Rj Clay@1:120/544 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 09:38:55
    Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Rj Clay:
    Hi Rj,

    On 2018-01-15 10:06:24, you wrote to me:

    http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...

    The list is 10 years old.

    The website could need an update... ;)

    Both the old one at Sourceforge and the new one, which would be
    at
    https://huskyproject.github.io.

    This url gives a 404 error...

    And will until the 'huskyproject.github.io' repo is created (either by renameing the 'homepage' repo or forking it). That's why I said "would be"...

    It's part of GitHubs 'Pages' functionality. If you're not aware; that's where if one has a repo named '<user name or org name>.github.io', one can have
    web site there and GH makes it available as a website.


    Jame



    Greetings, Rj Clay
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  • From Michael Dukelsky@2:5020/1042 to Rj Clay on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 22:11:58
    Hello Rj,

    Wednesday January 17 2018, Rj Clay wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    https://huskyproject.github.io.

    This url gives a 404 error...

    And will until the 'huskyproject.github.io' repo is created (either
    by renameing the 'homepage' repo or forking it). That's why I said
    "would be"...

    It's part of GitHubs 'Pages' functionality. If you're not aware; that's where if one has a repo named '<user name or org
    name>.github.io', one can have web site there and GH makes it
    available as a website.

    In fact there are more options to publish the 'homepage' repository. https://help.github.com/articles/configuring-a-publishing-source-for-github-pages/

    I've set the source of GitHub Pages to the master branch of 'homepage' repository and the site now is at
    https://huskyproject.github.io/homepage/

    But the site is outdated and needs an update. It would be very good if you could do the job.

    Michael

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  • From Rj Clay@1:120/544 to Michael Dukelsky on Thursday, January 18, 2018 16:22:35
    Michael Dukelsky wrote to Rj Clay:
    Hello Rj,

    Wednesday January 17 2018, Rj Clay wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    https://huskyproject.github.io.

    This url gives a 404 error...

    And will until the 'huskyproject.github.io' repo is created
    either by renameing the 'homepage' repo or forking it). That's why
    I said "would be"...

    It's part of GitHubs 'Pages' functionality. If you're not aware; that's where if one has a repo named '<user name or org name>.github.io', one can have web site there and GH makes it available as a website.

    In fact there are more options to publish the 'homepage' repository.

    https://help.github.com/articles/configuring-a-publishing-source-for-github
    -pages/

    I've set the source of GitHub Pages to the master branch of 'homepage' repository and the site now is at
    https://huskyproject.github.io/homepage/

    Yes, that's the way to do it for an individual git repository, usually using
    a branch named 'gh-pages' and that's how I've done it for other sites I'm associated with at github. For the user or project wide site, the
    repository would need to be named huskyproject.github.io, in order for it to
    be available at https://huskyproject.githup.io. One can then also have a domain
    name that can redirect to that but someone one would have to maintain the domain name in dns; I use that functionality for one of mine site there.


    But the site is outdated and needs an update. It would be very good if you could do the job.

    I'd be glad to (in part to make up for how long it's been since I worked on
    the one at SourceForge...<g>) but it's the web site for the whole husky project
    so I'll wait until the repository is renamed properly for that.




    Jame


    Greetings, Rj Clay
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  • From Rj Clay@1:120/546 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Thursday, January 18, 2018 15:24:30
    Wilfred,

    On 2018-01-15 10:06:24, you wrote to me:
    http://husky.sourceforge.net/team.html ...
    The list is 10 years old.
    The website could need an update... ;)
    Both the old one at Sourceforge and the new one, which would be at
    https://huskyproject.github.io.

    This url gives a 404 error...

    That's because the repo for GitHub to make that site available as 'huskyproject.github.io' is not there yet.



    Jame


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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Rj Clay on Friday, January 19, 2018 10:32:18
    Hi Rj,

    On 2018-01-18 15:24:30, you wrote to me:

    https://huskyproject.github.io.

    This url gives a 404 error...

    That's because the repo for GitHub to make that site available as 'huskyproject.github.io' is not there yet.

    Are you alright? ;)

    Yesterday you replied to the same message, with a similar answer...

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Michael Dukelsky@2:5020/1042 to Rj Clay on Friday, January 19, 2018 11:49:38
    Hello Rj,

    Thursday January 18 2018, Rj Clay wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

    I've set the source of GitHub Pages to the master branch of
    'homepage' repository and the site now is at
    https://huskyproject.github.io/homepage/

    Yes, that's the way to do it for an individual git repository,
    usually using a branch named 'gh-pages' and that's how I've done it
    for other sites I'm associated with at github. For the user or
    project wide site, the repository would need to be named huskyproject.github.io, in order for it to be available at https://huskyproject.githup.io. One can then also have a domain name
    that can redirect to that but someone one would have to maintain
    the domain name in dns; I use that functionality for one of mine site there.

    But the site is outdated and needs an update. It would be very
    good if you could do the job.

    I'd be glad to (in part to make up for how long it's been since I worked on the one at SourceForge...<g>) but it's the web site for the whole husky project so I'll wait until the repository is renamed
    properly for that.

    I've renamed the 'homepage' repository to 'huskyproject.githup.io' but now the site is at a weird address of https://huskyproject.github.io/huskyproject.githup.io/
    :-(
    Are you sure that this variant is better?

    Looks like the common form of the site URL is https://organization_name.github.io/repository_name

    Now everyone who cloned the repository as 'homepage' has to run the following command in the local repository:

    (if you access GitHub using ssh)
    git remote set-url origin git@github.com:huskyproject/huskyproject.githup.io.git

    or
    (if you access GitHub using https)
    git remote set-url origin https://github.com/huskyproject/huskyproject.githup.io.git

    It is not mandatory but it is strongly recommended.

    Michael

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  • From Michael Dukelsky@2:5020/1042 to All on Friday, January 19, 2018 20:23:54
    Hello Michael,

    Friday January 19 2018, Michael Dukelsky wrote to Rj Clay:

    I've renamed the 'homepage' repository to 'huskyproject.githup.io' but
    ^^^^^^
    It was a misspelling. I fixed it and now it's OK. The site is at https://huskyproject.github.io/

    Michael

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  • From Rj Clay@1:120/546 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Tuesday, January 23, 2018 18:59:48
    Wilfred,

    On 2018-01-18 15:24:30, you wrote to me:
    https://huskyproject.github.io.
    This url gives a 404 error...
    That's because the repo for GitHub to make that site available as
    'huskyproject.github.io' is not there yet.
    Are you alright? ;)
    Yesterday you replied to the same message, with a similar answer...

    Indeed I am, thanks for asking...



    Jame


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